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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.brilliant4biz.com/xl-results-foundation/comment-page-1/#comment-28199</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consumer Update - XL Results Foundation collapse. 
 
The XL Results Foundation Head Office in Singapore has closed down. 
 
Address: 30 Robinson Road, #02-01, Robinson Towers, SINGAPORE 048546. 
 
Victims of Ponzi Scheme operator Roger Hamilton and the XL Results Foundation scam are advised to contact the Consumer Affairs Department and/or Department of Fair Trade in their respective country. 
 
XL Results Foundation Pte Ltd is owned by a holding company incorporated to a PO Box address in the Republic of Seychelles. 
 
Company Secretary, MARGARET LOH CHUI MEI,  10 ANSON ROAD, #21-07, INTERNATIONAL PLAZA, SINGAPORE (079903).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consumer Update &#8211; XL Results Foundation collapse. </p>
<p>The XL Results Foundation Head Office in Singapore has closed down. </p>
<p>Address: 30 Robinson Road, #02-01, Robinson Towers, SINGAPORE 048546. </p>
<p>Victims of Ponzi Scheme operator Roger Hamilton and the XL Results Foundation scam are advised to contact the Consumer Affairs Department and/or Department of Fair Trade in their respective country. </p>
<p>XL Results Foundation Pte Ltd is owned by a holding company incorporated to a PO Box address in the Republic of Seychelles. </p>
<p>Company Secretary, MARGARET LOH CHUI MEI,  10 ANSON ROAD, #21-07, INTERNATIONAL PLAZA, SINGAPORE (079903).</p>
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		<title>By: Singapore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Singapore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XL Results Foundation has closed its office down in Singapore owing staff and life members money.  

(You can verify this before you post it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XL Results Foundation has closed its office down in Singapore owing staff and life members money.  </p>
<p>(You can verify this before you post it).</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Office of Fair Trade
London


http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/xl-results-foundation-life-membership-c103605.html</description>
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London</p>
<p><a href="http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/xl-results-foundation-life-membership-c103605.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/xl-results-foundation-life-membership-c103605.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Educated Consumer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Educated Consumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earning a commission on an XL Life Membership is illegal and considered pyramiding. 

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/scams/pyramid_e.htm

Pyramid Schemes 

For the purpose of Section 206(1)(e) of the Criminal Code a pyramid scheme is illegal when a person participating in the scheme becomes entitled to receive more money than they invested in the scheme by reason of recruiting others. The money is made through recruitment only, while the product or service has no real value. 

Beware of people secretly paid by the operator to make grandiose claims about the success of the plan. 

Refuse to make a financial commitment or sign a contract in a high-pressure situation. Take time to review and re-evaluate the plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earning a commission on an XL Life Membership is illegal and considered pyramiding. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/scams/pyramid_e.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/scams/pyramid_e.htm</a></p>
<p>Pyramid Schemes </p>
<p>For the purpose of Section 206(1)(e) of the Criminal Code a pyramid scheme is illegal when a person participating in the scheme becomes entitled to receive more money than they invested in the scheme by reason of recruiting others. The money is made through recruitment only, while the product or service has no real value. </p>
<p>Beware of people secretly paid by the operator to make grandiose claims about the success of the plan. </p>
<p>Refuse to make a financial commitment or sign a contract in a high-pressure situation. Take time to review and re-evaluate the plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Flora</title>
		<link>http://www.brilliant4biz.com/xl-results-foundation/comment-page-1/#comment-16839</link>
		<dc:creator>Flora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely Daisy, thanks for your comments and your enthusiastic support for the XL Foundation. I think your testimonial would carry more weight if you supplied contact details other than a hotmail address, and maybe a clearer outline of the business success you had as a result of your membership of XL.

Anonymous - I agree, that is a succinct summary of the situation. The first rule of marketing is to offer a money back guarantee: it reduces suspicion, and if your product is halfway decent very few customers feel the need to ask for a refund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely Daisy, thanks for your comments and your enthusiastic support for the XL Foundation. I think your testimonial would carry more weight if you supplied contact details other than a hotmail address, and maybe a clearer outline of the business success you had as a result of your membership of XL.</p>
<p>Anonymous &#8211; I agree, that is a succinct summary of the situation. The first rule of marketing is to offer a money back guarantee: it reduces suspicion, and if your product is halfway decent very few customers feel the need to ask for a refund.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently attended a Breakfast with Roger Hamilton!

Why would someone who claims to be promoting trust,world wide wealth and social giving have to resort to a high pressure sales tactic to sell his memberships?   

What Roger does at the breakfast is create an environment to pressure you into buying, by isolating (telling anyone who isn&#039;t interested to leave), creating scarcity (only 5 memberships available today), and being vague on the details of the membership (too many benefits to go through).  That combined with the fact that there is a no refunds policy, no cooling off period and no copy of the contract for the buyer is out of integrity in my opinion.

If Roger Hamilton and XL was a company of integrity, they can simply address all these issues by 

1.  Offering a 7 or 14 day refund policy.   
2.  Explain the benefits of the Life Membership in detail instead of selling it in a high pressure sales environment!
3.  Offer a 30 day trial!  

Instead they choose to launch their own PR campaign to create confusion and doubt.  Let&#039;s be clear, if you review the postings on the internet it&#039;s not just 1 ex-employee complaining!  It&#039;s hundreds of people from different countries who are angry enough to devote time to create blogs, postings and feedback to warn others!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently attended a Breakfast with Roger Hamilton!</p>
<p>Why would someone who claims to be promoting trust,world wide wealth and social giving have to resort to a high pressure sales tactic to sell his memberships?   </p>
<p>What Roger does at the breakfast is create an environment to pressure you into buying, by isolating (telling anyone who isn&#8217;t interested to leave), creating scarcity (only 5 memberships available today), and being vague on the details of the membership (too many benefits to go through).  That combined with the fact that there is a no refunds policy, no cooling off period and no copy of the contract for the buyer is out of integrity in my opinion.</p>
<p>If Roger Hamilton and XL was a company of integrity, they can simply address all these issues by </p>
<p>1.  Offering a 7 or 14 day refund policy.<br />
2.  Explain the benefits of the Life Membership in detail instead of selling it in a high pressure sales environment!<br />
3.  Offer a 30 day trial!  </p>
<p>Instead they choose to launch their own PR campaign to create confusion and doubt.  Let&#8217;s be clear, if you review the postings on the internet it&#8217;s not just 1 ex-employee complaining!  It&#8217;s hundreds of people from different countries who are angry enough to devote time to create blogs, postings and feedback to warn others!!</p>
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		<title>By: lovely daisy</title>
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		<dc:creator>lovely daisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh gosh,

seems like a really hot topic here. o well, make a quick guess. i think everyone got it all wrong. firstly there are trainings done by XL foundation and it is excellent. their trainers are superb and fantastic that no one even notice time was ticking away. if you are thinking about a scam, let me tell u guys this. i bought the membership years ago at USD3200 and since i am old and will not be using it for long, i plan to transfer them out. the staff were great and offer me alternative. yes, there was an option of which i have to find my seller and the other of which if XL find a seller for me there would be a 30% comission. i chose the latter and guess what, i got back close to USD6000 after the comissions. who said they were a scam? they never were. these members that complained NEVER made an effort to get involve in the events. they expected to be spoon fed, entrepeneurs like me don need spoon feeding. you guys are missing out on alot by attending the event and not joining. seriously, i have never regretted. even when my business was slow, XL offer me opportunities to meet other members from other countries when i was travelling. within 6 months, with all the networking and my effort to be at the event and listen to Roger and tell him about my business plan, i made a profit of close to USDhalf a million. 
you are probably thinking i am paid to say all this or that i am simply the lucky ones. but real XL members are all laughing their heads off with all these silly talks. they will not share the success story with you because they know you are not worth to know. too bad guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh gosh,</p>
<p>seems like a really hot topic here. o well, make a quick guess. i think everyone got it all wrong. firstly there are trainings done by XL foundation and it is excellent. their trainers are superb and fantastic that no one even notice time was ticking away. if you are thinking about a scam, let me tell u guys this. i bought the membership years ago at USD3200 and since i am old and will not be using it for long, i plan to transfer them out. the staff were great and offer me alternative. yes, there was an option of which i have to find my seller and the other of which if XL find a seller for me there would be a 30% comission. i chose the latter and guess what, i got back close to USD6000 after the comissions. who said they were a scam? they never were. these members that complained NEVER made an effort to get involve in the events. they expected to be spoon fed, entrepeneurs like me don need spoon feeding. you guys are missing out on alot by attending the event and not joining. seriously, i have never regretted. even when my business was slow, XL offer me opportunities to meet other members from other countries when i was travelling. within 6 months, with all the networking and my effort to be at the event and listen to Roger and tell him about my business plan, i made a profit of close to USDhalf a million.<br />
you are probably thinking i am paid to say all this or that i am simply the lucky ones. but real XL members are all laughing their heads off with all these silly talks. they will not share the success story with you because they know you are not worth to know. too bad guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Orr</title>
		<link>http://www.brilliant4biz.com/xl-results-foundation/comment-page-1/#comment-12034</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Orr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to the Daniel Priestly event which was quite inspiring but the whole process was about getting you to sign up to life membership of the XL Results Foundation.

Daniel&#039;s company is Triumphant Events and it would appear from an earlier posting that he may now be in England to avoid the heat in his native Australia.  There was no branding at all for Triumphant but there was for XL Results Foundation and also lots of their magazines all over the tables.

The cult connection was also interesting.  I was conned into something called The Forum in the late eighties.  That was the latest incarnation of Werner Erhart&#039;s Est cult.  By the way, Werner Erhart&#039;s original name was Jack Rosenberg.  Strange that someone with a Jewish sounding name should adopt a very Arian name.

Many of the phrases used by Daniel throughout the day gave me a feeling of deja vu but I couldn&#039;t put my finger on where I had heard them.  Then I read his Ecademy profile and saw his charity was the Hunger Project and the penny dropped.

I asked Daniel several times how much he was making out of selling these memberships and he dodged the question.  I told him that I didn&#039;t mind him making money and expected that he must be making something for all this effort.  He still dodged the question saying that the couple of hundred quid he might make was not his motivation for signing people up.  When I said I would have to consult my life partner he tried a very interesting trick of saying fill in the form now and we won&#039;t do anything with it for a couple of weeks.  I declined the offer.

Daniel was selling life membership for US$10,000 or if you wanted to include a partner US$11,000.  He then offered an option to pay US$900 per month (or $1,000 with partner).  He had compared life membership of XL to a life member of The Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG) He said you can&#039;t lose because the value would be increasing all the time and so if you ever came to want to transfer it, which was allowed, you would probably get more than you paid.  He said this was because there were strict limitations on life memberships and only a couple more would be allowed this year.

He then mentioned something called Circle Membership which was similar to Life membership but only lasted three years and after that it was finished and worthless unlike Life Membership which would have increased in value.

I am always put off and sceptical about any product or service which needs a hard sell and lots of explanation so I told them I would talk it through with my life partner and left.  One person in the room did sign up to the Circle membership at US$5,000 and I know his email so I will be suggesting that he looks at all the stuff on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to the Daniel Priestly event which was quite inspiring but the whole process was about getting you to sign up to life membership of the XL Results Foundation.</p>
<p>Daniel&#8217;s company is Triumphant Events and it would appear from an earlier posting that he may now be in England to avoid the heat in his native Australia.  There was no branding at all for Triumphant but there was for XL Results Foundation and also lots of their magazines all over the tables.</p>
<p>The cult connection was also interesting.  I was conned into something called The Forum in the late eighties.  That was the latest incarnation of Werner Erhart&#8217;s Est cult.  By the way, Werner Erhart&#8217;s original name was Jack Rosenberg.  Strange that someone with a Jewish sounding name should adopt a very Arian name.</p>
<p>Many of the phrases used by Daniel throughout the day gave me a feeling of deja vu but I couldn&#8217;t put my finger on where I had heard them.  Then I read his Ecademy profile and saw his charity was the Hunger Project and the penny dropped.</p>
<p>I asked Daniel several times how much he was making out of selling these memberships and he dodged the question.  I told him that I didn&#8217;t mind him making money and expected that he must be making something for all this effort.  He still dodged the question saying that the couple of hundred quid he might make was not his motivation for signing people up.  When I said I would have to consult my life partner he tried a very interesting trick of saying fill in the form now and we won&#8217;t do anything with it for a couple of weeks.  I declined the offer.</p>
<p>Daniel was selling life membership for US$10,000 or if you wanted to include a partner US$11,000.  He then offered an option to pay US$900 per month (or $1,000 with partner).  He had compared life membership of XL to a life member of The Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG) He said you can&#8217;t lose because the value would be increasing all the time and so if you ever came to want to transfer it, which was allowed, you would probably get more than you paid.  He said this was because there were strict limitations on life memberships and only a couple more would be allowed this year.</p>
<p>He then mentioned something called Circle Membership which was similar to Life membership but only lasted three years and after that it was finished and worthless unlike Life Membership which would have increased in value.</p>
<p>I am always put off and sceptical about any product or service which needs a hard sell and lots of explanation so I told them I would talk it through with my life partner and left.  One person in the room did sign up to the Circle membership at US$5,000 and I know his email so I will be suggesting that he looks at all the stuff on the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 05:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advice to Natalie

Roger Hamilton has no legal standing regarding selling you a life membership or attempting to force you to pay.  XL is a pyramid scheme.

Put your cancellation request in writing to XL Results Foundation and lodge a complaint (with a copy of your cancellation letter) to the Department of Fair Trade in Melbourne and the ACCC.  

Your other alternative is to go to the press and lodge a report with the www.ripoffreport.com website</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advice to Natalie</p>
<p>Roger Hamilton has no legal standing regarding selling you a life membership or attempting to force you to pay.  XL is a pyramid scheme.</p>
<p>Put your cancellation request in writing to XL Results Foundation and lodge a complaint (with a copy of your cancellation letter) to the Department of Fair Trade in Melbourne and the ACCC.  </p>
<p>Your other alternative is to go to the press and lodge a report with the <a href="http://www.ripoffreport.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ripoffreport.com</a> website</p>
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		<title>By: Flora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Natalia
 
I sympathise with your predicament. I am no lawyer but the contract you have signed is probably drawn up in Singapore. However you are in Australia and under Australian law you must have a cooling off period etc. If XL do business in Aus, they have to comply with local consumer protection local legislation. Obviously get advice from the ACCC and ASIC, and remember XL get a lot of cancellations after the event from those who have second thoughts after leaving the intense atmosphere os the presentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Natalia</p>
<p>I sympathise with your predicament. I am no lawyer but the contract you have signed is probably drawn up in Singapore. However you are in Australia and under Australian law you must have a cooling off period etc. If XL do business in Aus, they have to comply with local consumer protection local legislation. Obviously get advice from the ACCC and ASIC, and remember XL get a lot of cancellations after the event from those who have second thoughts after leaving the intense atmosphere os the presentation.</p>
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